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I'D LIKE TO THANK EACH OF YOU FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING.
AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF YOU'RE ABLE, WOULD YOU PLEASE JOIN US FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE?
[1. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:]
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
IT APPEARS WE HAVE ALL THE MEMBERS PRESENT THIS EVENING, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MR..
BUT WE DO HAVE EVERY MEMBER HERE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION ITSELF. SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO TURN THE MEETING OVER TO OUR SECRETARY, MR. JOE EMERSON. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WILL JOIN WITH YOU IN WELCOMING EVERYONE TO THE HENRICO COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
PUBLIC HEARING FOR AUGUST 13TH, 2026. THIS EVENING, IT'S REQUESTED ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS BE PROVIDED FROM THE LECTERN TO THE REAR OF THE ROOM. FOR EVERYONE WHO IS WATCHING US LIVE STREAM ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE, YOU CAN PARTICIPATE REMOTELY IN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS BY FOLLOWING THESE GUIDELINES, GO TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT'S MEETING WEB PAGE@HENRICO.GOV.
STAFF WILL SEND A MESSAGE ASKING IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON AN UPCOMING CASE.
TO RESPOND, SELECT MOLLY MALLOW FROM THE DROP DOWN MENU AND SEND HER A MESSAGE.
SHE WILL PLACE YOU IN THE QUEUE TO SPEAK. AND JUST SO EVERYBODY IS AWARE, AS WE MOVE INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE MEETING, THE COMMISSION DOES HAVE GUIDELINES FOR ITS PUBLIC HEARINGS.
THE APPLICANT OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVE WILL HAVE TEN MINUTES TO PRESENT TESTIMONY.
A PORTION OF THAT TIME CAN BE SAVED FOR REBUTTAL OF OPPOSITION STATEMENTS.
INDIVIDUAL SPEAKERS AND SUPPORT, NOT PART OF AN APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION, WILL HAVE UP TO TWO MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR TESTIMONY AND COLLECTIVELY WILL NOT EXCEED TEN MINUTES UNLESS THE CHAIR EXTENDS THE TIME.
THE COMMISSION MAINTAINS VERBATIM MINUTES OF THE MEETING.
COMMENTERS MUST PROVIDE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS PRIOR TO THE MEETING FOR THE RECORD.
ONE THING I WILL NOTE AS WELL, THERE IS A TIMER THAT YOU WILL SEE ON THE LECTERN.
THERE ARE THREE LIGHTS ON IT THAT I THINK ARE VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD GREEN, YELLOW AND RED.
GREEN MEANS GO. YELLOW MEANS YOUR TIME'S ALMOST UP.
WITH THAT SAID, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE MOVE INTO THE REQUEST FOR WITHDRAWALS AND DEFERRALS, AND WE HAVE ONE WITHDRAWAL AND ONE DEFERRAL, AND MR. JEAN MOORE WILL GO OVER THOSE WITH YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THE FIRST IS A WITHDRAWAL THAT'S ON PAGE ONE OF YOUR AGENDA.
[2. TUCKAHOE: (Deferred from the June 11, 2026, Meeting) PUP-2026-100178 Kermit Farrow for Crown Castle USA, Inc: Request for a Provisional Use Permit under Sections 24-2306 and 24-4314.F of Chapter 24 of the County Code to allow the replacement and extended height of a wireless communications tower from 85’ to 155’ on Parcel 746-745-5305 located at the southeast intersection of Gaskins Road and Stoneridge Lane. The existing zoning is R-3 One-Family Residence District. The 2026 Comprehensive Plan recommends Open Space/Recreation. Staff – Han Vu (Withdrawn by Applicant) ]
THIS IS PROVISIONAL USE PERMIT DASH 2026-100178.THE APPLICANT IS CROWN CASTLE USA INCORPORATED.
AGAIN, THIS HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN SO NO ACTION IS REQUIRED BY THE COMMISSION.
NOW THE DEFERRALS. OH, OKAY. FOR THE DEFERRALS, GO RIGHT INTO THAT.
THE FIRST IS ON PAGE TWO OF YOUR AGENDA. THIS IS REZONING CASE IN THE DISTRICT.
[5. REZ-2026-100434 Ace Investments, LLC: Request to conditionally rezone from A-1 Agricultural District and M-2C General Industrial District (Conditional) to M-2C General Industrial District (Conditional) Parcels 822-699-9433 and 824-701-3334 containing 73.665 acres located at the north line of Pocahontas Parkway approximately 410’ east of Monahan Road. The applicant proposes outdoor storage and office uses. The use will be controlled by zoning ordinance regulations and proffered conditions. The 2026 Comprehensive Plan recommends Planned Industry. The site is located in the Airport Safety Overlay District. Staff – Kelly Drash (Deferral Requested to the September 10, 2026, Meeting)]
THIS REZONING CASE 2026-100434. THIS IS ACE INVESTMENT INVESTMENTS, LLC.[00:05:05]
THIS IS A REQUEST TO CONDITIONALLY REZONE FROM A1 AND M2 TO M2.THE APPLICANT PROPOSES OUTDOOR STORAGE OFFICE AND USES.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A DEFERRAL TO YOUR SEPTEMBER 10TH, 2026 MEETING.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT OR ON WEBEX WHO'S OPPOSED TO THE DEFERRAL OF CASE NUMBER, REZ2026100434? MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE IS NOBODY ON WEBEX FOR THIS CASE.
OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. SEEING HERE THERE'S NO OPPOSITION TO THE DEFERRAL.
I MOVE THAT RAZ-2026-100434 ACE INVESTMENTS, LLC BE DEFERRED TO THE SEPTEMBER 10TH, 2026, MEETING AT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. MACKIE, SECOND BY MR. ROFF. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE.
[3. FAIRFIELD: (Deferred from the July 9, 2026, Meeting) REZ-2026-100916 Imperial Investments Group LLC: Request to conditionally rezone from R-6C General Residence District (Conditional) and B-3 Business District to B-3C Business District (Conditional) Parcels 784-760-2968 and 784-760-2885 containing 2.202 acres located at the northeast intersection of Magellan Parkway and Brook Road (U.S. Route 1). The applicant proposes general retail. The use will be controlled by zoning ordinance regulations and proffered conditions. The 2026 Comprehensive Plan recommends Government and Environmental Protection Area. Staff – Livingston Lewis ]
REZ2026100916. IMPERIAL INVESTMENT GROUP, LLC.THIS IS A REQUEST TO CONDITIONALLY REZONE FROM R6C GENERAL RESIDENCE DISTRICT AND B THREE BUSINESS DISTRICT TO B3C BUSINESS DISTRICT 2.202 ACRES LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF MAGELLAN PARKWAY AND BROOK ROAD.
THE USE WILL BE CONTROLLED BY ZONING ORDINANCE REGULATIONS AND PROPER CONDITIONS.
THE 2026 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RECOMMENDS GOVERNMENT AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AREA STAFF REPORT WILL BE PRESENTED BY MR. LIVINGSTON LEWIS. MR. LEWIS, HOW ARE YOU NOW? GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE 2.2 ACRES AT THE NORTHEAST INTERSECTION OF MAGELLAN PARKWAY AND BROOK ROAD FROM R6C AND B32B3C FOR COMMERCIAL ACCESS AND RELATED COMMERCIAL USES.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THE SITE AS GOVERNMENT AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AREA, REFLECTING THE FORMER USE AS A DMV BRANCH OFFICE.
THE R6C PORTION OF THE SITE WAS REZONED IN 2019 AS PART OF A RETREAT AT ONE, BUT WAS ULTIMATELY NOT NEEDED TO ACHIEVE THAT DEVELOPMENT'S FINAL LAYOUT. DURING THE CONSTRUCTION OF MAGELLAN PARKWAY IN 2021, THE REMNANT FRONTAGE PARCEL WAS CREATED AND THE DMV ACCESS WAS SHIFTED EASTWARD TO AVOID QUEUING AT THE PLANNED TRAFFIC SIGNAL ON BROOK ROAD.
THIS PLACED THE ACCESS ON THE R-6 ZONED PORTION.
WITH THE CURRENT ACCESS AND ZONING SCENARIO IN PLACE.
FIRST, THE CURRENT ZONING CODE DOES NOT ALLOW COMMERCIAL USES TO BE ACCESSED THROUGH RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTY, WHEREAS THIS WAS A MATTER OF POLICY PRIOR TO THE SEPTEMBER 2021 ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.
ADDITIONALLY, BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS OFFICE USE CEASED OPERATIONS FOR A PERIOD EXCEEDING 24 MONTHS.
THE SITE NO LONGER RETAINS ITS NONCONFORMING STATUS, THEREBY DISALLOWING THE NONCONFORMING ACCESS.
THE SUBJECT CASE AIMS TO ADDRESS BOTH OF THESE ISSUES.
THE CODES ACCESS RESTRICTION IS IN PLACE TO AVOID NEGATIVE IMPACTS FROM POTENTIALLY INCOMPATIBLE USES, PARTICULARLY IN SCENARIOS SIMILAR TO THIS, WITH A SITE CHANGING FROM A 9 TO 5 OFFICE OPERATION TO SOMETHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY INVOLVE EXTENDED HOURS AND A WIDER RANGE OF ACTIVITIES DURING THE TIME THE CASE HAS BEEN DEFERRED.
THE REQUEST NOW INCLUDES THE LARGER PARCEL WITH THE BUILDING, AND PROFFERS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED WITH A LIST OF PRINCIPAL USE RESTRICTIONS AND LIMITS ON THE HOURS OF OPERATION. THAT WOULD BE THE ESSENTIALLY MATCHING BE TWO HOURS OF OPERATION, WHICH ARE 6 A.M.
TO MIDNIGHT. WITH THESE ASSURANCES IN PLACE, STAFF IS ABLE TO SUPPORT THE REQUEST AS IT WILL ACHIEVE GREATER COMPATIBILITY WITH ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS AND BETTER SUPPORT FOR THE AREA'S BROADER REVITALIZATION GOALS.
THANK YOU, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
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ALL RIGHT. MR. LEWIS, THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT. BEFORE WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, IS THERE ANYONE ON WEBEX ON THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS PARTICULAR CASE? MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE IS NOBODY ON WEBEX FOR THIS CASE.ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYBODY FROM THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. WELL, I JUST HAVE A STATEMENT. I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK MR. LEWIS FOR HIS WORK ON THIS CASE AND WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT TO GET TO A POINT KIND OF WHERE WE ARE NOW.
SO THANK YOU, SIR. ABSOLUTELY. WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME? GOOD EVENING. KATE LAFAYETTE HERE WITH ANDY CONLON FROM ROTH JACKSON REPRESENTING IMPERIAL INVESTMENTS GROUP, LLC. WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT THIS CASE.
AT THIS TIME I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS CASE, BUT ALSO TOO, WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE APPLICANT FOR COMING FORWARD AND BEING WILLING TO MEET AND MAKE THE NECESSARY CHANGES THAT TOOK PLACE SO THAT WE COULD GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, WHERE STAFF REALLY WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVING FORWARD, SUPPORTING THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE.
SO, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AS WELL, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT SAID, AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR REZ2026100916.
IMPERIAL INVESTMENT GROUP, LLC BE APPROVED. SECOND.
ALL RIGHT. MOTION BY MYSELF. SECOND BY MR. MACKEY.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.
MR. CHAIRMAN, WE NOW MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CASE ON YOUR AGENDA, WHICH ALSO APPEARS ON PAGE ONE.
[4. VARINA: (Deferred from the July 9, 2026, Meeting) REZ-2025-102340 DRB III Trucking LLC: Request to conditionally rezone from A-1 Agricultural District and B-3 Business District to M-2C General Industrial District (Conditional) Parcels 815-699-6667 and 815-699-8388 containing 5.938 acres located at the southeast intersection of Darbytown Road and Miller Road. The applicant proposes outdoor storage and trailer parking. The use will be controlled by zoning ordinance regulations and proffered conditions. The 2026 Comprehensive Plan recommends Planned Industry. The site is located in the Airport Safety Overlay District. Staff – Kelly Drash ]
THIS IS REZ2025102340DRB3. TRUCKING LLC REQUEST TO CONDITIONALLY REZONE FROM A-1 AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AND B-3 BUSINESS DISTRICT TO MTC GENERAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.APPROXIMATELY 5.938 ACRES LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF DARBYTOWN ROAD AND MILLER ROAD.
THE STAFF REPORT WILL BE PRESENTED BY MISS KELLY TRASH.
TO SUMMARIZE, IT IS APPROXIMATELY SIX ACRES AT THE INTERSECTION OF DARBYTOWN ROAD AND MILLER ROAD, WHERE AN EXISTING BUSINESS IS REQUESTING TO REZONE TO M2C GENERAL INDUSTRIAL TO ADDRESS VIOLATIONS FROM COMMUNITY MAINTENANCE AND TO FURTHER EXPAND OUTDOOR STORAGE ON THE PROPERTY. THE COMMISSION DEFERRED THE CASE TWICE TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL TIME TO RESEARCH QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE APPLICANT'S INITIAL OPERATION ON THE SITE.
DP REQUIREMENTS FOR CONNECTING TO PUBLIC SEWER AND TO EVALUATE POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS.
ON JULY 17TH, STAFF MET WITH THE APPLICANT TO REVIEW THE FINDINGS OF THEIR RESEARCH AND TO PRESENT AN ALTERNATIVE LAYOUT FOR CONSIDERATION THAT WOULD MEET CODE REQUIREMENTS AND WOULD HAVE A REDUCED IMPACT ON THE SITE AND ITS SURROUNDINGS.
DURING THAT MEETING, THE APPLICANT WAS MADE AWARE THE SITE DOES NOT RETAIN ANY NON-CONFORMING STATUS FROM PRIOR OPERATIONS AND THE BUSINESS WOULD NEED TO CONNECT TO PUBLIC UTILITIES AS REQUIRED BY CODE. SINCE THE MEETING IN JULY, DISCUSSIONS HAVE CONTINUED WITH THE APPLICANT AND A COUPLE PROFFER REVISIONS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED AS SEEN IN YOUR HANDOUTS, INCLUDING A COMMITMENT TO CONNECT TO PUBLIC SEWER.
HOWEVER, THE EXTENT OF THE REQUEST AND BASIC LAYOUT REMAINS THE SAME.
WHILE THE APPLICANT HAS MADE POSITIVE CHANGES AND HAS TAKEN STEPS TO CLEAN UP THE PROPERTY.
STAFF CONTINUES TO BELIEVE THE REQUEST DOES NOT REFLECT THE PLANNED INDUSTRY LAND USE DESIGNATION, AND SHOULD BE SCALED BACK TO REDUCE POTENTIAL IMPACTS.
FOR THESE REASONS, STAFF CANNOT SUPPORT THE PROPOSED USE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE ON WEBEX THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS CASE? MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE IS NOBODY ON WEBEX FOR THIS CASE.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ON THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MRS? YEAH I DO. I KNOW WE SPOKE EARLIER. I FORGOT TO ASK YOU ABOUT OUR FINDINGS ON THE HEIGHT OF THE SCREENING FENCE.
THAT'S STILL 14FT. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED AT THE TIME OF PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
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AS THE WATER. I BELIEVE WATER IS ALREADY HAS A LINE WATER.ALL RIGHT. OKAY. I'LL FIND OUT FROM THAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.
MR. MACKEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT? YES, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT.
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU, MR. MACKEY, FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE IN GETTING US HOOKED UP WITH STAFF TO GET PAST SOME HURDLES, SUCH AS THE SANITARY SEWER LINE AND THE FENCE CONCERNS AND SUCH. SO I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.
I JUST WANT TO START OFF AGAIN BY SAYING DONNIE OPERATES A SMALL BUSINESS.
OKAY. HIS BUSINESS IS SCALED BACK. OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS.
DONNIE WOULD LIKE TO GROW HIS BUSINESS BACK TO WHAT IT WAS, OR POTENTIALLY A LITTLE BIT MORE.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE 2026 PLAN, AS WELL AS THE UPCOMING NEXT PLAN, BOTH CALL OUT FOR THIS PROPERTY TO BE PLANNED.
INDUSTRIAL CONCERN, I SEE IS PLANNED INDUSTRIAL CALLS FOR LARGE TRACTS OF LAND.
THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS LANDLOCKED. YOU'VE GOT DARBYTOWN ROAD TO THE NORTH.
YOU'VE GOT 895 TO THE EAST. YOU'VE GOT STATE OWNED PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE SOUTH.
IT'S DRAINAGE EASEMENT FOR 895 AND MILLER ROAD.
SO THIS SITE COULD NOT MEET THE LARGE TRACT OF LAND, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT SCENARIO.
AND THAT'S WHY WE SHOW WHAT WE SHOW ON THE PLAN AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, STORAGE AREA.
ALSO, THE STORAGE COULD BE REVENUE FOR DONNIE TO OFFSET THE EXPENSES OF.
I'M SORRY I MISSED WHAT YOU SAID. THE STORAGE COULD BE WHAT? REVENUE FOR FOR DONNY. BECAUSE OF THE EXPENSE INCURRED OF REZONING THE PROPERTY, THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN NOW EXTENDING THAT SANITARY SEWER IS GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT EXPENSE.
IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE TRAFFIC CONTROL. SEWERS IN THE ROAD.
SO YOU HAVE TO CLOSE THE ROAD OR AT LEAST HALF OF IT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME TO PUT THAT SEWER LINE IN.
SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE WHERE WE ARE TODAY. THE OTHER THING TOO IS THAT STAFF HAD ASKED US TO LOOK AT JUST REZONING THE B THREE PIECE TO M2C, BUT THAT SITE IS SO SMALL THAT IT WOULDN'T MEET HIS NEEDS. IT DOESN'T MEET HIS NEEDS TODAY.
THAT'S THAT'S WHY SOME OF THE GRAVEL WAS PUT DOWN THAT ENCROACHES ON ONTO THE A ONE PIECE.
SO HOW, HOW MUCH DO YOU PLAN? HOW MUCH GROWTH ARE YOU LOOKING TO DO? I GUESS ONLY THE FUTURE CAN TELL. AT ONE TIME I HAD LIKE 30 TRAILERS AND SEVEN TRUCKS.
NOW I GOT THREE TRUCKS AND 15 TRAILERS. AT THE CURRENT MOMENT YOU KNOW, UP UNTIL THIS, I HAVE A COUPLE CONTRACTS I COULD HAVE COULD HAVE HAD, BUT, YOU KNOW, I DECIDED NOT TO PURSUE THEM DUE TO, YOU KNOW, MY SITUATION WITH THE COUNTY.
I MEAN, I HOPE TO, YOU KNOW, GROW, YOU KNOW, MORE MONEY, MORE CONTRACTS, MORE, MORE STUFF, MORE, YOU KNOW, REVENUE. I UNDERSTAND PART OF THE PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THE LOCATION OF IT AND WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS ABOUT IT, PLAN INDUSTRIAL.
I MEAN, IN NO DISRESPECT TO YOU, IT'S A IT'S A IT'S AN EYESORE.
NOW I DO THINK THAT IT NEEDS TO BE UPGRADED MORE.
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BUT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT, IT MEETS, YOU KNOW, ALL THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE.ALSO. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FUTURE GROWTH AND EVERYTHING.
WE DID LOOK INTO SOME OF, YOU KNOW, SCALING IT DOWN AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT YOU KNOW, THE TYPE OF BUSINESS YOU'RE DOING. BUT I MEAN, YOU HAVE THOSE BIG TRUCKS COMING OUT OF THERE.
AND THEN IF YOU GROW AND YOU HAVE MORE TRUCKS, THAT'S JUST MORE AND MORE BIG TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT THERE AT THAT INTERSECTION. IT'S JUST A BAD LOCATION IN MY OPINION FOR THAT.
BUT I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, MY OPINION ON THAT.
AGAIN I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF. I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, STATE THAT ASPECT OF IT WHEN YOU WAS TALKING ABOUT THE PLAN INDUSTRIAL AND EVERYTHING YOU CAN CONTINUE.
I'VE PRETTY MUCH COVERED MY TALKING POINTS. AS FAR AS REDEVELOPMENT PER SE AND, AND MAKING CHANGES TO EXISTING STRUCTURES.
DONNIE DOESN'T HAVE A MAJOR NEED FOR THE BUILDING THERE ON THE CORNER, OTHER THAN IT'S JUST USED FOR STORAGE, RIGHT? FLUIDS, TIRES, WHATEVER. AND DO YOU DO YOU HAVE ANY NOW THAT THE EXISTING BUILDING THAT'S GOING TO REMAIN, THAT'S THAT'S THE ONE YOU'RE GOING TO PUT LIKE SOME SOME SIDING OR SOMETHING ON.
IT'S JUST USED BECAUSE IT'S IT'S THERE. I KNOW WE ALSO HAD SOME ISSUES AND SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL BE STORING LARGE TRUCKS THERE AND EVERYTHING. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST PUTTING GRAVEL OUT THERE. I MEAN, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT LEAKS AND, YOU KNOW, STUFF LIKE THAT? WELL, THAT'S THE IT'S GOING TO BE ASPHALT BEHIND THE BUILDINGS.
THEY DON'T REALLY LEAK NO FLUID. SO I MEAN, THE ASPHALT IS DEFINITELY GOING TO BE IN THE BACK.
THAT'S THE THING THAT'S REQUIRED ANYWAYS. IT'S BEHIND THE BUILDING AND THAT'S ABOUT A ONE ACRE LOT, IF I AM MISTAKEN, RIGHT THERE. AND THE GRAVEL IN THE BACK, LIKE I SAID, IT WOULD BE TRAILERS.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL THAT'S GOING TO BE BACK. THERE IS TRAILERS, MAYBE A COUPLE OF MY BOATS. AND, AND THE STORAGE. IT'S REALLY NO STORAGE. THAT'S JUST HOW THEY THEY CLASSIFIED IT.
I GUESS I'M NOT REALLY STORING NOTHING OUTSIDE.
I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S CLASSIFIED LIKE THAT, BUT THAT'S THE THAT'S HOW THEY CLASSIFY IN THE COUNTY, I GUESS. IT'S NOTHING STORED OUT. NOTHING GOING TO BE STORED OUTSIDE.
NO TIRES, NO OIL, NO PARTS. NOTHING WILL BE STORED.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT'S LISTED LIKE THAT, BUT THAT'S JUST THE WAY THEY IN THE ORDINANCE.
NO KIND OF MATERIALS OR NOTHING LIKE THAT. IT'S GOING TO BE JUST TRAILER PARKING, I GUESS, LIKE COMMERCIAL TRAILERS. I THINK I GOT ABOUT 15 OF THEM AND THEN LIKE 6 OR 7 SMALLER TRAILERS THAT YOU HOOK TO PICKUP TRUCKS.
I MEAN, AND YOU SPOKE ABOUT IT EARLIER. WHAT, WHAT DO YOU USE? DID YOU SAY YOU HAUL WATER? YES, SIR. AT THE MOMENT I'M MY BIGGEST CONTRACT IS ON WATER PALLETIZED WATER.
AND IT'S VERY IT'S VERY, VERY LOW TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF MY PLACE.
I MEAN, YOU MIGHT HAVE RIGHT NOW I GOT TWO DRIVERS AND MYSELF, BUT WE PROBABLY COME IN AND OUT MAYBE 3 OR 4 TIMES A WEEK AT THE MOST. AND HOW MUCH OF THE AREA IS THERE ANY OF THE AREA WHERE THE TRUCKS ARE GOING TO BE THAT ISN'T THAT COVERED BY ASPHALT OR GRAVEL? NO. NOWHERE WHATSOEVER. THE TRUCKS WOULD BE THE TRUCKS WOULD DEFINITELY BE ON THE
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ASPHALT AREA. IT'S JUST THE THE TRAILERS ARE SO BIG.THEY'RE 53 FOOT. YOU KNOW, IT TAKES 100, 100 FOOT TO TURN THEM AROUND.
PRETTY MUCH. THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE IN THE BACK.
THERE'S TRAILERS. THAT'S IT. AND UP TO THIS POINT, HOW LONG HAD YOU BEEN OPERATING YOUR BUSINESS? I'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE 2017 AND I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 2019.
BUT, YOU KNOW, AFTER COVID, THINGS WENT BAD AND THINGS ARE STILL BAD WITH THE FUEL PRICES RIGHT NOW.
BUT SO, YOU KNOW, WE FORCED TO DOWNSIZE. MR. EMERSON, HOW, HOW FAR ARE WE AWAY FROM HIM BEING IN TOTAL COMPLIANCE? WELL, HE HAS QUITE A BIT OF WORK TO DO ON THE SIDE.
THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, THE FENCE. BUT THAT'LL COME IN. YES, SIR. IT WOULD COME IN AT POD AND YOU CAN DO IT WITH THE FENCE, OR YOU CAN DO IT WITH FENCE AND LANDSCAPE LANDSCAPING IN COMBINATION.
BUT YOU DO HAVE TO SCREEN THOSE, THOSE TRAILERS FROM VIEW.
YES, SIR. WE ACTUALLY WENT OVER IT MULTIPLE TIMES WITH STAFF TO JUST OUR LAST MEETING.
THEY PROPOSED ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE AREA.
I THINK IT WAS LIKE 140 TREES THAT HAD TO BE PLANTED.
I'VE ALREADY PLANTED LIKE 30 OR 40 EVERGREENS.
JUST HOW LONG YOU THINK IT'LL TAKE YOU TO GET INTO COMPLIANCE? PROBABLY LESS, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN A YEAR, I GUESS.
YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S TOO LONG. I MEAN, HOW LONG WOULD YOU WERE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO GET IN COMPLIANCE BEFORE YOU GO TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS? I MEAN, I CAN'T SEND SOMETHING AHEAD THAT'S NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
AND I MEAN, WE CAN'T DO A POD TILL AFTER ZONING AND THE POD PROCESS.
I MEAN, WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT SIX, NINE MONTHS OR MORE. THAT WAS THE ONLY REASON I SAID A YEAR.
I MEAN, WHATEVER YOU NEED ME TO DO, I WOULD DO IT.
I MEAN, THEY SAID I NEEDED TO HOOK TO ONE TIME.
THEY SAID THEY TOLD ME IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO HOOK THE SEWER.
I GOT WATER AT THE HOUSE ALREADY. I GOT COUNTY WATER HOOK.
I PAID FOR THAT. AND THEY TOLD ME SEWER WAS NOT FEASIBLE THERE.
THAT'S GOING TO BE ESTIMATED 100 PLUS THOUSAND DOLLARS.
I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, BUT I'M I'M GOING TO IF YOU APPROVE IT.
ALL RIGHT. SO BASICALLY. SO IF WE APPROVE IT, THEN WE HAVE A WAY OF VERIFYING THAT HE MAKES THE IMPROVEMENTS. YES. HE'LL HAVE TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THE SITE'S PROBLEM IS WE DENY IT. THEN HE GOES BACK TO DOING WHAT HE WAS DOING.
HE'S BEEN THERE SINCE 2017, 2019. YOU DIDN'T HAVE A BUSINESS LICENSE THEN, DID YOU? ACTUALLY, SIR, I DID HAVE A BUSINESS LICENSE. I BOUGHT THE I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY THROUGH MY COMPANY AND I DO HAVE A BUSINESS LICENSE IN HENRICO COUNTY.
IT'S JUST AT THE TIME YOU DON'T HAVE A LICENSE, YOU LICENSE.
IT WASN'T REQUIRED THAT YOU HAD TO HAVE A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO HAVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY AT MY HOUSE. BUT I DO HAVE ACTUALLY ANOTHER BUSINESS THAT'S LABELED AT THAT PROPERTY, BUT IT'S JUST A LEASING COMPANY, YOU KNOW, FOR SOME TRAILERS AND STUFF AT LEAST.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN HE DOESN'T HAVE A LICENSE. HE CAN'T HAVE.
I MEAN, FOR THIS. OH, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW. ALL RIGHT.
OKAY. BUT IF YOU WERE TO APPROVE THE REZONING AND THE BOARD APPROVED IT, AND YOU GOT THIS PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT IN PLACE, THEN HE WOULD BE ABLE TO OBTAIN THAT THAT BUSINESS LICENSE AFTER HE MADE THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROPERTY.
AND I WOULD DO WHATEVER IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED TO BE IN A TIMELY MANNER. BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE IF IT DOES GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, THEN, I MEAN, THEY COME OUT AND INSPECT AND YOU DON'T MEET IT, THEN YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE. IF YOU OPERATE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE OPERATING IN VIOLATION.
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THEN HE NEEDS TO CLEAN THE PROPERTY UP, WHICH IS WHY HE GOT THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION FROM COMMUNITY MAINTENANCE.YEAH. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY ELSE ON THE COMMISSION? I DO HAVE ONE.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME MORE INCOME COMING IN BY RENTING, I GUESS STORING JUST TRAILERS.
IS THAT ALL YOU'RE GOING TO STORE ON THAT, OR WILL THERE BE OTHER VEHICLES AND STUFF LIKE THAT? YOU WOULD BE DOING TRAILERS, TRAILERS OF ANY, SIR.
I'M TRYING TO KEEP IT ALL MY STUFF. TO BE HONEST, IT WAS JUST AN AVENUE THAT HE HE MENTIONED YOU COULD ALWAYS RENT OUT SOME SPACE TO MAKE SOME MORE REVENUE. CORRECT. AND JUST TRYING TO GET SOME CLARITY ON EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO BE GOING ON.
CERTAIN THINGS HAVE TO BE ON AN ASPHALTED AREA.
OTHERS, IF YOU'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE ON STONE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
YES, SIR. IT WILL THE TRAILERS BE LOADED? WILL SOMEBODY JUST DROP A TRAILER THAT'S LOADED? YOU KNOW, MOST OF YOUR ALL MY TRAILERS ARE EMPTY WHEN THEY'RE ON THE LOT.
A LOT OF MY TRAILERS ARE ACTUALLY OFF, BUT THERE WOULD BE NO, NO VEHICLES, TRUCKS AND, YOU KNOW, PARK BACK THERE. IT'S JUST TRAILERS WOULD BE ON THE BACK LOT.
LIKE I SAID, MAYBE A COUPLE. I GOT THREE BOATS, TWO JET SKIS AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF TRAILERS.
RIGHT? AND YOU UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGE AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO TRYING TO GET THROUGH HERE WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH PROPER LICENSING, WITH WHAT WE'RE EXACTLY IS GOING TO BE GOING ON THERE.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET SOME CLARITY. YEAH. NO, SIR. IT'S MAINLY IT'S ALL GOING TO BE MY BUSINESS, MY TRUCKS, MY TRAILERS ON THE SITE. YEAH. BUT LIKE HE WAS SAYING, YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT LEASING SOME AREA OUT.
WELL, I HAVE A LEASING COMPANY WHERE I LEASE MY TRAILERS OUT.
OH, OKAY. SO I GOT ABOUT 6 OR 7 TRAILERS THAT ARE LEASED OUT TO, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT COMPANIES.
IT'S JUST SETTING. SO I LEASED THEM OUT TO OTHER COMPANIES TO USE RENT, YOU KNOW.
IT'S NOT. THE IMPACT TO ANY OF MY NEIGHBORS IS GOING TO BE ALMOST ZERO.
THERE. I MEAN, THERE'S HARDLY ANY TRAFFIC FLOW COMING IN AND OUT OF THERE.
I JUST, I DON'T. I DON'T OPERATE AT NIGHT TIME.
I MEAN, I JUST, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU, BUT IT'S JUST, IT'S VERY LOW IMPACT.
WHAT ARE THEY PARKING THE TRUCKS THEN? WELL, MY TRUCKS ARE SLEEPERS.
THEY SLEEP IN THE TRUCK, BUT YOU CAN ONLY DRIVE FOR SO MANY HOURS.
DID WE DID WE HAVE A LIST OF USES THAT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED? YES, SIR. A LOT OF THEM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE SCREENING I'VE OPT.
SO. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANYTHING? ALL RIGHT.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT STAFF HAS DONE ON IT.
THIS IS A TOUGH CASE. I MEAN. I THINK, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO MORE.
I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION. ALL RIGHT. MR. CHAIRMAN.
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OH, WE GOT A TIME LIMITS FOR THE PROBLEM. WE OKAY? YEAH. OKAY. I MOVE THAT WE GRANT A WAIVER OF TIME LIMITS AND ACCEPT THE PROFFERS DATED AUGUST 13TH, 2026 FOR REZ DASH 2025-102340 DRB. THE THIRD TRUCKING, LLC.SECOND. MOTION BY MR. MACKEY. SECOND BY MR. ROFF.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF REZ DASH 2025-102340 DRB.
THE THIRD TRUCKING LLC WITH THE REVISED PROFFERS DATED AUGUST 13TH, 2026.
SECOND. ALL RIGHT. MOTION BY MR. MACKEY, SECOND BY MR. SHIPPY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.
[6. DISCUSSION ITEM: Approval of 2027 Planning Commission calendar.]
MR. CHAIRMAN, WE NOW MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA, WHICH APPEARS ON PAGE TWO.AND THAT IS THE CONSIDERATION OF YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION CALENDAR.
AND IT ESSENTIALLY IS THE SAME CALENDAR YOU HAVE THIS YEAR.
IT JUST MOVES MOVES OVER A DAY TO ACCOMMODATE CALENDAR CHANGES, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF NOVEMBER 10TH DUE TO VETERAN'S DAY, THAT THAT MEETING MOVES TO WEDNESDAY AND THE FILING DEADLINE ALSO MOVES TO A WEDNESDAY.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SECRETARY. DO WE HAVE ANY JUST A MOTION.
ACCEPTING THE CALENDAR WOULD BE FINE. ALL RIGHT.
AND SECOND. ALL RIGHT. HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CALENDAR BY MR. MACKEY. SECOND BY MR. SHIPLEY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. MR. CHAIRMAN, THE NEXT ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA WILL BE THE CONSIDERATION OF THE APPROVAL OF YOUR MINUTES FROM YOUR REGULAR MEETING AND WORK SESSION ON JULY 9TH, 2026.
AND WE DON'T HAVE AN ERRATA SHEET. CORRECT. IF YOU HAVE ANY CHANGES THAT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADVISE US TO, TO MAKE, WE CERTAINLY WILL BE WILLING TO DO SO.
NONE FROM ME AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES.
SO MOVED. SECOND. MOTION BY MR. SHIPLEY. SECOND BY MR. WINTERHOFF. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER FOR THE COMMISSION THIS EVENING.
WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION.
638. MEETING ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.